Friday, November 18, 2005

Enabling Able Danger

Able Danger has been pulled out again. I do enjoy watching these fake distractions pulled back and forth with tiny little details nudged just enough to make them sound more truthful each time they come around. The nudge on Able Danger may be the date of this mysterious "chart" with post-it notes stuck on Atta's face and when Atta's photo was available. Atta entered the US June 3 - but supposed the highly classified Able Danger identified Atta in mid 2000 so I'm assuming that's June. They ID'd Atta instantly, as soon as he entered I guess.

If you read Weldon, he's telling "red-hot" secrets for the public good, especially of the evil in Iran and that the next "attack" may well be nuclear, and all this was known under Clinton's watch.

And of course, to believe Able Danger you have to believe that 19 hijackers partied in Florida, practiced (and poorly by reports) on crop dusters and simulators for a few months, then hijacked 4 planes simultaneously, bypassing NORAD, CIA, FBI, and a dozen other snoop dogs, etc. etc.....

Also, pushing Able Danger now is Louis Freeh, who has written a book of his FBI years. Freeh says of his boss from 1993 to 2001: “The problem was with Bill Clinton, the scandals and rumored scandals, the incubating ones and the dying ones never ended. Whatever moral compass the president was consulting was leading him in the wrong direction. His closets were full of skeletons just waiting to burst out.” Freeh says he was preoccupied for eight years with multiple investigations, including Whitewater, Jennifer Flowers and the Monica Lewinsky affair.

10 comments:

[].ragko said...

My favorite little bit of this whole story is that even after the destruction of the towers they were able to confirm Atta's involvment with his apparently fireproof and indestrucable passport which fluttered to the ground and wis pick up in mere hours. This was reported by the press. But now the story has changed that it was not his passport but ANOTHER hijaker's. "Satam Al Suqami"

Just thought I would bring this up as I always think about it when I see Atta's name.

Makes me think I should go get a bunch of pasport books and make a crash suit for my next flight.

Kate-A said...

I too think Atta - passport. And dozens of other preplanted 9/11 lies of mass distraction.

Kate-A said...

Other links that might be of interest.

"Former chairman Tom Kean told TIME that the White House should confirm whether, right after 9/11, Congressman Curt Weldon handed then Deputy National Security Adviser Steven Hadley a 1999 Pentagon chart pegging Atta as a member of al-Qaeda."Atta identified 2 years before 9/11?

What’s far more important, says Murray, is that Weldon’s freelance 007 crusade to be his own spymaster has ultimately done a disservice to the American people and to national security.

Of course, some folks find Weldon's Able Danger completely compatible with the theory of an inside job by 19+ hijacking patsies.

Unknown said...

I'll confess, Kate: I'm one of those folks (Able Danger part of Synthetic Terror (as Tarpley calls it) you mentioned in the previous commment.

Thanks for pointing that out. I'd love to know why you don't count yourself one of us?

Unknown said...

I apologize that I don't know those of you who frequent this blog. I've been a happy reader for least six months... probably. I'm sure that it's my own loss that I haven't paid more attention to Kate and frequent commentors.

I'm not looking to start a fight at all. I probably don't even look forward to a spirited debates, since I have to admit I'm pretty hard headed about what I believe (as far as it goes) about 9/11, and will most likely want to take all comers.

Rather than hash 9/11 stuff out, I would like to spectulate on some of the interesting aspects of Weldon / Able Danger, given my views.

Possibility 1: Weldon is thick like thieves with the US insiders who pulled off 9/11, and this big "blow up" is subtefuge, to further nail shut the coffin of truth in some way. I don't imagine this is true for a sec., but I try to be open minded and not rule it out.

Possibility 2: Weldon is exactly who he appears to be. He has a deep distrust for govt, for the Pentagon, for Dems, and for some Repubs. His zeal is driven by his certainty that our understanding about the truth of 9/11 and our ability to take appropriate followup measures has been compromised by the 9/11 Cover-up Commission. Now when it comes to me versus Weldon, we have the most enormous divide imaginable between us about what is most likely being covered up. Given our rightly exercised he is about the corruption and misbehavior that he has already discovered, I can only imagine what he would do if he had an inkling of the truth. That's what makes this so interesting to watch. Weldon thinks he's uncovered a few lies / sweeping things under the rug in order to protect a few individuals (prob. Dems he thinks) reputations. The fact that he's nawing at a massive conspiracy within our govt. in History has no way to enter his (or most people's minds) and therefore he has not the slightest clue why those in power will see to it that he fails in exposing the truth. If Weldon does find a find a way to plod forward, most likely there will be some kind of limited hang out to make him happy and make everyone think the issue was dealt with.

Other takes on Weldon.. When I find the discussion / critiques of Weldon by MSM or bloggers, who don't show a knowledge of truth of 9/11, they are entirely tiresome. I admit I could be wrong. Until I do find out that I'm wrong, however, I don't care about the pundits, and their nonsense. They don't know. The road to Able Danger is the road leading us to exposing the The Lie, and I would sacrifice mightily to support Weldon or any other way to wake this sad sad Nation to the Treason in our midsts.

Kate-A said...

BG,
I agree 9/11 was an inside job. I'll agree there are elements of, what to we the people, would be foreign influence within and guiding US policy, but there always has been. I don't agree that we have rogue networks or a parallel government – what's going on is our government, and has operated this way since at least Plymouth Rock. There isn't a need for "moles" as the global Anglo owners of the government have no need to be molish.

At the national level of government all pols are aware government is not what they might have once believed and they either leave the corridors or go along as pawns for the limo ride and rewards. They are not privy to the real power, simply minions in expensive suits living large on us. They're more like managers in perpetuating the national myths that make any country feel special and unique.

I'll agree Osama's name and former training has been used in a "patsy" capacity by the government but OBL died long ago or is living out his final days in a Saudi palace.

Patsies also are few and far between. Oswald, Sirhan, Ray, McVeigh were patsies; easily done away with, or controlled by being unbelievable as Sirhan and Ray. Osama is a new type of patsy in that he's elusive b/c he's the boogeyman who no longer exists, or his current famous "followers" who likely never existed, but serve to frighten and scare the herd. Did M. Atta ever exist anywhere but on paper?

I don't believe there were any hijackers on those planes. I figure WTC was imploded. There was a plane that hit the pentagon. Most of the terror attacks around the world are US, Inc. black ops (committed for various political reasons). But 19 patsies getting on 4 planes for Allah? Too Hollywood for me. I believe most of the "suicide" bombings are planted explosives, not people with belts.

Plame/Wilson, Able Danger, Judy Miller, Woodard, Downing Street, Abu Ghraib, and various scandals are 1 percent fact and 99 percent distraction. Anyone with an ear to power is not going to speak up, he/she cannot and/or will not. It's one thing for an individual to place his/her life on the line for truth – but another to sacrifice the entire family to shine light on that which most of the American public doesn't really want to know anyway.

No one in public is life is going to expose any truth. The system simply doesn't work that way. It's not only that we have "synthetic terror" but also a "synthetic" government. Truth is not in the best interest of the government, nor it's managers. Managers include pols, journalists, military, experts, religious leaders/groups, "insiders" and whistleblowers, etc. and managers have limited access anyway. Perhaps Weldon's dream of being a messenger of truth comes from spending too much time with Sun Myung Moon.

PS - I don't think you'll get much argument on the blog as most who find me disagreeable have moved on. Those who stayed are free enough to permit dissent.

Unknown said...

Wow, thanks for taking the time to lay all of that out.

One minor inconsequential note: There have been at least two Atta's in the mix. The Atta in the Hamburg Cell may or may not have been the Atta in the Brooklyn Cell, and is certainly different than the Atta in Florida and 9/11.

And, of course that doesn't include the other men with Atta's name.

Atta's Father (not sure if that's the Hamburg or the Florida) is still alive, and seems have secret agent kind of creditials himself. Atta's Father seems to be on reliable record that he talked with his son, still alive, after 9/11.

I need a good bit more time to digest all of what you have said.

As an example, however, I think I how a substantially different of opinion with you about the whole Abu Ghraib, extraordinary rendition, Gitmo. I think all of these scandles are "real", meaning they have had a real impact. The idea that they were a tempest in a teapot, or that the Press or other elements just uses them to distract.... I just could not disagree more. I realise perhaps 50% of Americans are "OK" with torture, especially if we hide it well, and don't call it torture.

However, I think the fact that a lot of this has been exposed is a sign of those like "Brownie", except, we threw New Orleans down the drain on purpose, but we really expected and intended to be able to handle Iraq and our world wide prisons without them getting exposed.

my 2 cents for now..

Kate-A said...

bg,
I agree torture is used, as I've posted in other posts on the blog. I just think the how, where, by who is a mix of confusion. I also don't believe torture is right but outing a few guilty parties will not stop it.

I'm more interested in changing a system that breeds a government this corrupt and I tend to believe chasing every scandal coming down the pike a waste of time. I don't think it solely a "neocon" or Bush regime kind of thing.

If I know the government is corrupt, thieving, lying, that's all I need to know to want change. I don't need a particular "gate" event. Besides that would only remove a few heads and the whole body is corrupted.

I think people like ourselves feel the impact but the majority of Americans are not politically minded, other than on an occasional basis, or they narrow things down to one person, one event, etc. to pin the crime on, rather than seeing themselves as part of the system creating the problem, or even seeing the system is no different than most in the world. Free as long as we behave.

I refer to the events as distractions b/c in the end little will change. Send Lindy to jail, take a bird off the collar of Janis, and still torture goes on. Also have to wonder for instance with Abu, if the handlers were intel and so smart, why were they allowing every grunt a camera to record their crimes. I've had more than one roll of film confiscated and unraveled in my face so I'm amazed these fotos were ever seen, amazed they were not uglier (the unreleased fotos I don't think will be worse than what we've seen). As for Weldon, the lies he was caught in with the Rev. Moon folly makes him so unreliable to me.

Thanks for responding. I think we're on the same plane, but maybe looking out different windows.

Unknown said...

I bow to you as more knowledgable on Weldon and the Moonies.

Have you read Confessions of an Economic Hit Man?

Pretty good Book. I'm not sure if it points to the underlying system that you are referring to or not.

Kate-A said...

bg,
I've not read Economic Hit Man but if I see it at the library will pick it up. I've read a few reviews of it and it sounds rather like what's always gone on in regard to corporate/power people doing what they've always done, but with modern buzz words.

British corporate power draining wealth from the colonies (what is still done to the world) was the reason the old boys wanted "freedom" in 1776. "Freedom" didn't last long as today corporations have more rights than most people and little to no accountability.

The "system" is like every other pyramid scheme - with a limited number of players holding most of the wealth - and not because they've earned it.

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